DF64 (Turin) · Flat burrDF64E
The electronic-dosing sibling to the original DF64 hype grinder — same 64mm stainless flat burrs and near-zero retention, but with a timer display, single/double dose buttons, and a bottom-burr stepless adjustment that keeps its calibration through cleaning.
The short version
This is the DF64 formula with an electronic dosing brain bolted on: press a button, get a repeatable time-based dose instead of eyeballing a manual grind.
Accept that the display and extra electronics widen what can eventually go wrong versus the dead-simple manual DF64, and that stock burrs are a known upgrade candidate once you get serious.
Why people buy it
- Bottom-burr adjustment keeps your dialed-in setting even after popping the top burr off for cleaning
- Electronic single/double/manual dosing is genuinely easy to program and repeat day to day
Why they don’t
- Stock burrs are a known upgrade step — many owners move to SSP burrs fairly quickly for a cleaner cup
The full tally
- Bottom-burr adjustment keeps your dialed-in setting even after popping the top burr off for cleaning
- Electronic single/double/manual dosing is genuinely easy to program and repeat day to day
- 64mm stainless flat burrs with near-zero retention at a price well under other electronic single-dose grinders
- Comes with both a bellows for single-dosing and a small hopper, so it flexes between workflows
- Stock burrs are a known upgrade step — many owners move to SSP burrs fairly quickly for a cleaner cup
- Dosing cup can physically block the bottom adjustment dial, an annoyance flagged by reviewers
- Small manufacturer with inconsistent stock, regional resellers, and thinner support/warranty infrastructure than mainstream brands
What the community knows
Years of owner threads, distilled — strongly recommended.
The value single-dose darling — low retention, espresso-capable, an enormous online following and burr-swap scene.
Value
price-to-performance the community respects
Ecosystem
mods, guides, and community know-how around it
Ceiling per dollar
how far the cup can go, per dollar
All 9 community measures
price-to-performance the community respects
shows up every morning, year after year
parts and repairs — you are never stranded
mods, guides, and community know-how around it
kind to first-timers
years before you outgrow or replace it
how far the cup can go, per dollar
speed and simplicity, day to day
Worth knowing before you buy — Most owners upgrading from Baratza or Sage underestimate the single-dose workflow burden; budget equally for a scale and bellows routine, not just the grinder.
Known weak points — Electrical burnout and fire risk within 2 years of regular use; Gen 1 static issues and inadequate stock Italmill burrs (Gen 2 addressed the latter).
The measurements
Scored 0–5 on the same rubric as everything on file — the words matter more than the numbers.
The measurements
0–5, one rubric- Espresso
- dialed4
- Versatility
- narrow3
- Built to last
- fair3
Position in the market
Every dot is a rival, measured the same way. The gold one is this.
- Lower half for espresso suitability
- a higher ceiling than 58 of the 154 grinders we’ve measured
- A value pick at this level
- 92% of grinders this capable cost more
- Lower half for build
- sturdier than 12% of the field, by the community’s own record
Every dot is a grinder measured on the same rubric. See the whole market
Living with it
The part spec sheets skip: counter space, upkeep, and what owners learn later.
The honest note — Owners typically stay put and swap in SSP (Multipurpose, Unimodal, or Lab Sweet) 64mm burrs rather than replacing the whole grinder, since the DF64 platform has a real aftermarket burr scene. Those who outgrow the chassis itself tend to move up to bigger-burr single-dose grinders like the DF83 or premium options such as a Lagom P64 or Option-O.
The full spec sheet
- Class
- Single dose
- Burrs
- 64mm flat
- Drive
- Electric
- Adjustment
- Stepped (micro)
- Clarity lean
- Clarity & sparkle
- Espresso suitability
- 4/5
- Brew versatility
- 3/5
- Retention
- ~0.3 g
- Single dosing
- Yes
- Hopper
- 250 g
- Burr-swap scene
- Documented
- Workflow demand
- 2.5/5
- Maintenance
- 2/5
- Noise
- 3/5
- Build longevity
- 3/5
- Dimensions
- 12 × 19 × 42 cm
Before it arrives
What completes this grinder — the faded pieces can wait.
Coffee scale with timer — Espresso is a ratio. A 0.1g scale with a built-in timer is the single biggest consistency upgrade for any manual machine.
- Coffee scale with timer — Espresso is a ratio. A 0.1g scale with a built-in timer is the single biggest consistency upgrade for any manual machine.
- Dosing cup — Pairs with single-dose grinding — grind into the cup, swirl, and transfer to the portafilter cleanly.
- Grinder cleaning kit — Brushes and grinder tablets keep retention and stale grounds in check.
Feed it right
Week one is dial-in — and stale beans will lose it.
Coffee more than a few weeks past roast won’t extract predictably, and a new grinder gets blamed for it. These burrs lean bright — washed single-origins with real acidity are where they earn their price.
Pick your coffee — any of these dials in beautifully here:
Sergio - Brazillian Fazenda Joia Rara Aerobic FermentedSCA 88Medium-light · Cerrado Mineiro · Aerobic FermentedHoney · OrangeEnough brightness to show what this gear can separate.CA$29.18 · roasted to order
Honeycrest - Costa Rican Volcán AzulSCA 87Medium-light · West Valley · Red HoneyRaisins · Maple SyrupEnough brightness to show what this gear can separate.CA$19.50 · roasted to order
Wild Ember - Ethiopian Buno Dambi UddoSCA 92Medium roast · Odo Shakiso, Guji Zone, Oromia · NaturalBlueberry · MarmaladeEnough brightness to show what this gear can separate.CA$26.83 · roasted to orderWhole bean, dated, ready for your burrs the week it lands.
Roasted to order, daily, in Ajax, Ontario · ships Canada-wide. We’re the roastery behind this database — measuring the machines is how we make sure the coffee gets a fair shot.
On film
How it runs on camera, from around the community.
Common questions
Is the DF64E the same as the manual DF64?
No. It shares the 64mm flat-burr platform and low-retention single-dose design, but adds an electronic display with timed single, double, and manual dosing modes, plus a bottom-burr adjustment mechanism instead of the original's top collar.
Can I upgrade the burrs on a DF64E?
Yes. SSP Multipurpose, Unimodal, and Lab Sweet 64mm burrs are documented aftermarket options that fit the DF64E, and DF64E units purchased with SSP burrs are typically pre-aligned by the seller.
Does the DF64E come with a hopper or just single-dose bellows?
Both. It ships with a rubber bellows for single-dosing and a small hopper for continuous use, giving flexibility between the two workflows.
Worth comparing
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