Mazzer Philos vs Option-O Lagom P64
Same class, different tax brackets.
About CA$245 apart — and the gap buys nothing the data can taste.
Mazzer
Strong consensusCA$1,660–2,050 · US$1,350–1,550
This is Mazzer taking its commercial know-how and building the single-doser the SSP crowd has been assembling from parts kits for years. Accept the premium price and the fact that at 64mm it…
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Option-O
Strong consensusCA$2,000–2,200 · US$1,585–1,650
This is a grinder for someone who already knows they want to fuss over burr choice and RPM dial-in, not someone looking for a plug-and-play upgrade from a Rocky. Accept the price and the spo…
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Where they actually differ
Measured side by side, they tie on all 7 counts we track — the choice is price, size, and taste in hardware.
Philos
Lagom P64
The price
Philos costs less, clearly
CA$1,660–2,050· CA$2,000–2,200
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Their burrs share a character — this choice will not change the shape of your cup.
The counter’s vote
Looks barely figure in either machine’s record — the counter can sit this one out.
Philos: Appliance-neutral industrial form; no design awards or "kitchen approval" talk drive purchase decisions — bought entirely for function and burr geometry.
Where they tie: espresso duty · brew range · retention · reliability record · built to last — don’t let a spec sheet invent a difference.
On the counter
The size difference, to scale
So — which one?
Take the Philos if —
- The difference stays in your pocket — or goes into beans
Take the Lagom P64 if —
Hard case to make: the Philos leads everywhere the data separates them. This one is a deal-day purchase, not a first choice.
Measured, they're the same machine in different shells. Take the Philos and put the difference into fresh, roast-dated beans.
Known weak points
Philos
No widely documented critical failures in circulation — Mazzer flat-burr machines carry reputation for reliability; minor wear on burrs over years of heavy use (normal consumable, not a failure mode).
For the row-by-row readers
The whole sheet, side by side
Matching rows fade back — the ink is where they differ.
Philos
Lagom P64
Class
Single dose
Single dose
Burrs
64mm flat
64mm flat
Drive
Electric
Electric
Adjustment
Stepped (micro)
Stepless
Clarity lean
Clarity & sparkle
Clarity & sparkle
Espresso suitability
4.5/5
5/5
Brew versatility
4.5/5
4/5
Retention
~0.3 g
~0.2 g
Single dosing
Yes
Yes
Hopper
60 g
40 g
Burr-swap scene
Documented
Documented
Maintenance
2/5
2/5
Noise
2.5/5
2/5
Build longevity
4.5/5
5/5
Dimensions
15.3 × 35.1 × 36.1 cm
13 × 21 × 38 cm
Workflow demand
—
3/5
One owner each
“The grinder feels extremely robust, and it's a pleasure to use.”
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