LUCCA M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control vs Profitec DRIVE

Two answers to the same question — the split below is the whole argument.

LUCCA M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control

LUCCA

Strong consensus
M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control

US$3,295–3,440

The M58 Sunto with Flow Control is the highest-expression version of Clive's flagship: it brings genuine dual-boiler thermal stability, flow profiling, and a genuinely quiet rotary pump to a…

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Profitec DRIVE

Profitec

Strong consensus
DRIVE

CA$4,929 · US$3,299–3,499

The DRIVE is the most complete E61 dual-boiler Profitec has shipped: flow control, dual PID, fast heat-up, and joystick steam valves come in the box rather than as extras. Accept that at 31…

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So — which one?

Take the M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control if —

Hard case to make: the DRIVE leads everywhere the data separates them. This one is a deal-day purchase, not a first choice.

Take the DRIVE if —

Hard case to make: the M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control leads everywhere the data separates them. This one is a deal-day purchase, not a first choice.

The data cannot split them. Take the cheaper one, or the one whose looks you can live with — then stop reading reviews.

For the row-by-row readers

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Matching rows fade back — the ink is where they differ.

M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control

DRIVE

Type

Dual boiler

Dual boiler

Heat-up time

~12 min

~12 min

Steam power

4/5

4/5

Brew + steam at once

Yes

Yes

Guest recovery

4.5/5

4/5

Shot quality ceiling

4.5/5

4.5/5

PID temperature control

Yes

Yes

Milk system

Manual steam wand

Manual steam wand

Removable brew group

No

No

Flow control

Yes

Yes

Hot-water tap

Yes

Yes

Cup clearance

0 cm

0 cm

Workflow demand

4/5

4/5

Maintenance

3/5

2/5

Noise

2/5

2/5

Build longevity

4.5/5

5/5

Dimensions

34 × 48.5 × 42 cm

One owner each

"5 years later and I see no reason to upgrade. The beauty of the machine equals the performance."
Verified buyeron Clive CoffeeRead the source →
The Profitec Drive joystick is really more of a binary thing -- on or off... Having said all that, the machine steams well and you can adjust the steam boiler temp to get pressure control so not a big deal.
Forum memberon Home BaristaRead the source →

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