Ditting 807 Lab Sweet vs Mahlkönig E80S GbW
Two answers to the same question — the split below is the whole argument.
Ditting
Strong consensusCA$3,800–4,200 · US$2,999–3,200
This is a bag grinder wearing a home-bar costume: a lab/shop tool from a company that has made burrs since 1928, repurposed by enthusiasts for its uniquely sweet, syrupy cup. Accept the size…
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Mahlkönig
CA$3,400–4,600 · US$2,500–3,500
This is a café workhorse: obscene grinding speed, a load cell that actually delivers gram-accurate dosing shot after shot, and burrs built for volume, not fussy single-origin exploration. Ac…
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Where they actually differ
On 3 of 6 measures these two tie. The 3 rows below are the entire argument.
807 Lab Sweet
E80S GbW
Brew range
807 Lab Sweet leads, decisively
Value per dollar
807 Lab Sweet leads, decisively
Reliability record
807 Lab Sweet leads, clearly
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The E80S GbW leans the balanced middle; the 807 Lab Sweet leans syrup and body. Pick the cup, not the machine.
The counter’s vote
Looks barely figure in either machine’s record — the counter can sit this one out.
807 Lab Sweet: Reveals preference for industrial-elegant counter presence—owners cite "stunningly beautiful" and "looks attractive," and the aesthetic distinction from older 804 is documented purchase driver…
E80S GbW: Compact commercial profile, clean matte/polished finishes; the rotary control undermined perceived build integrity despite solid steel frame and burr assembly.
Only the 807 Lab Sweet: a single-dose workflow.
Only the 807 Lab Sweet: a documented burr-swap scene.
Where they tie: espresso duty · built to last · quiet operation — don’t let a spec sheet invent a difference.
So — which one?
Take the 807 Lab Sweet if —
- Syrupy, traditional cups are the goal
- You brew more ways than one
- Every dollar has to earn its place
- It has to just work, every day
Take the E80S GbW if —
- Bright, separated cups are the goal
The 807 Lab Sweet leads everywhere the data separates them, at the same money — the E80S GbW's case is taste, looks, or a deal you couldn't refuse.
Known weak points
807 Lab Sweet
Burr alignment variance on arrival (documented across multiple units 2021-2022, appears improved in recent batches); owner reports of poor service response from some dealers when shimming attempted; occasional reports of high retention with thicker metal flappers.
E80S GbW
Factory calibration failures on load cell and burr distance; portafilter weight scale errors exceeding 2.5% accuracy tolerance; variable dose output (14–18g at 16g target) requiring recalibration post-purchase; wobbly rotary encoder controls despite otherwise solid construction.
For the row-by-row readers
The whole sheet, side by side
Matching rows fade back — the ink is where they differ.
807 Lab Sweet
E80S GbW
Class
Single dose
Premium
Burrs
80mm flat
80mm flat
Drive
Electric
Electric
Adjustment
Stepless
Stepless
Clarity lean
Syrup & body
Balanced
Espresso suitability
4.5/5
5/5
Brew versatility
5/5
1.5/5
Single dosing
Yes
No
Hopper
510 g
1800 g
Burr-swap scene
Documented
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Maintenance
2/5
3/5
Noise
3/5
3/5
Build longevity
5/5
4.5/5
Dimensions
30 × 21.6 × 53.6 cm
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Workflow demand
—
1.5/5
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