Baratza Forté AP vs Fiorenzato AllGround
Two answers to the same question — the split below is the whole argument.
Baratza
CA$1,050–1,200 · US$849–850
The Forté AP is a hopper-based workhorse that punches well above its class in range and feature density, combining grind-by-weight accuracy with a stepped macro/micro system that makes brew-…
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Fiorenzato
CA$999–1,299 · US$795–995
This is Fiorenzato putting its café know-how into a home shell: fast, clean-dosing, tool-free to clean, and genuinely capable across three brew methods. Accept that the grind-adjustment scal…
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Where they actually differ
On 4 of 6 measures these two tie. The 2 rows below are the entire argument.
Forté AP
AllGround
Quiet operation
AllGround leads, decisively
Value per dollar
AllGround leads, clearly
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Their burrs share a character — this choice will not change the shape of your cup.
The counter’s vote
Looks barely figure in either machine’s record — the counter can sit this one out.
Forté AP: Appliance-neutral industrial aesthetic; no design-award pull or kitchen-approval talk in community record.
AllGround: Appliance-neutral industrial form; no revealed preference for or against aesthetics in purchase talk.
Where they tie: espresso duty · brew range · reliability record · built to last — don’t let a spec sheet invent a difference.
On the counter
The size difference, to scale
So — which one?
Take the Forté AP if —
Hard case to make: the AllGround leads everywhere the data separates them. This one is a deal-day purchase, not a first choice.
Take the AllGround if —
- There are sleepers to protect
- Every dollar has to earn its place
The AllGround leads everywhere the data separates them, at the same money — the Forté AP's case is taste, looks, or a deal you couldn't refuse.
Known weak points
Forté AP
Portafilter-holder accuracy reported as inconsistent across units; noise levels above community expectations for the price bracket.
AllGround
Grind dial ergonomic/indexing issue requiring community-documented workarounds; no widespread catastrophic failure reports but the UX flaw is acknowledged across forums.
For the row-by-row readers
The whole sheet, side by side
Matching rows fade back — the ink is where they differ.
Forté AP
AllGround
Class
Midrange
Midrange
Burrs
54mm flat
64mm flat
Drive
Electric
Electric
Adjustment
Stepped (micro)
Stepped (micro)
Clarity lean
Balanced
Balanced
Espresso suitability
4/5
4/5
Brew versatility
4/5
3.5/5
Retention
~10 g
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Single dosing
No
No
Hopper
300 g
250 g
Workflow demand
2/5
1.5/5
Maintenance
2/5
1.5/5
Noise
4/5
2/5
Build longevity
4/5
4/5
Dimensions
13 × 18 × 36 cm
16.9 × 24 × 46 cm
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