Ascaso Baby T Plus vs Londinium R24
A thermoblock against a lever — two philosophies of the same morning.
About US$2,189 apart — the split below is what the gap buys.
Ascaso
US$5,849–6,245
The Baby T Plus delivers a genuine commercial DNA — rotary pump, a dedicated 2.3L steam boiler, thermoblock brew path, and per-degree PID — in a package that heats brew-ready in under two mi…
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Londinium
US$3,858
The R24 is a well-engineered HX spring-lever that trades manual lever rawness for digitally dialled pre-infusion control and a pump that barely registers. The one thing a buyer must accept i…
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Where they actually differ
On 6 of 11 measures these two tie. The 5 rows below are the entire argument.
Baby T Plus
R24
Ready when you are
Baby T Plus leads, decisively
~5 min· ~60 min
Parts & repair
R24 leads, decisively
The price
R24 costs less, decisively
US$5,849–6,245· US$3,858
Reliability record
R24 leads, decisively
Push-button convenience
Baby T Plus leads, clearly
Forgiving to learn on
R24 leads, clearly
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The counter’s vote
Looks barely figure in either machine’s record — the counter can sit this one out.
Baby T Plus: Industrial stainless aesthetic in three finishes; no design awards or kitchen-approval narrative—appliance-neutral, noted as striking but not iconic.
R24: Wenge portafilter and minimalist panel appreciated but not a purchase driver; design remains appliance-neutral in community discourse.
Only the Baby T Plus: PID temperature control.
Only the R24: flow control.
Where they tie: milk & steam · shot ceiling · back-to-back drinks · built to last · value per dollar — don’t let a spec sheet invent a difference.
On the counter
The size difference, to scale
So — which one?
Take the Baby T Plus if —
- Patience is not your virtue at 6 a.m.
- You want a button, not a ritual
- You want the temperature argument settled
Take the R24 if —
- You plan to fix, not replace
- The difference stays in your pocket — or goes into beans
- It has to just work, every day
- You want the more forgiving of the two
Both columns reading true? Take the R24 and put the difference into fresh, roast-dated beans — they move the cup more than this choice will.
Known weak points
Baby T Plus
Early versions (2022–23) exhibited long heat-up times and cold-boiler thermal collapse; at least one 2024 unit reported dual steam solenoid failures requiring service twice within months; insufficient long-term ownership data to establish prevalence.
R24
Rare app connectivity issues (circa 2021, resolved); isolated pump failures handled well by manufacturer; no documented boiler or seal failures in current corpus
For the row-by-row readers
The whole sheet, side by side
Matching rows fade back — the ink is where they differ.
Baby T Plus
R24
Type
Thermoblock / thermojet
Lever
Heat-up time
~5 min
~60 min
Steam power
4/5
4/5
Brew + steam at once
Yes
Yes
Guest recovery
4/5
3.5/5
Shot quality ceiling
4/5
4.5/5
PID temperature control
Yes
No
Milk system
Manual steam wand
Manual steam wand
Removable brew group
No
No
Hot-water tap
Yes
Yes
Cup clearance
7.62 cm
8.9 cm
Workflow demand
3/5
4/5
Maintenance
3/5
2/5
Noise
2/5
1.5/5
Build longevity
4/5
4.5/5
Dimensions
35 × 43 × 45 cm
33 × 54 × 75 cm
Flow control
—
Yes
One owner each
“Among them, there seems to be a forgotten option yet one that shines in performance - the Ascaso Baby T plus. Rivaling with machines like the La Marzocco Linea Mini, this machine packs the same powerful technology (T-Plus) and features as commercial Barista T.”
“I have found it easy to use, it is incredibly quiet and it also looks great! I have been playing around with the adjustable pre infusion On the app to dial in some SO Beans and found it improves the taste considerably!”
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