LUCCA M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control vs Wendougee Data S
Same class, different tax brackets.
The Data S runs ~16% more (listed in different currencies) — the split below is what the gap buys.
LUCCA
Strong consensusUS$3,295–3,440
The M58 Sunto with Flow Control is the highest-expression version of Clive's flagship: it brings genuine dual-boiler thermal stability, flow profiling, and a genuinely quiet rotary pump to a…
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Wendougee
US$3,299–3,740 · CA$5,265–5,270
The Data S is a well-engineered dual-boiler with a saturated group and a genuinely quiet gear pump, positioned to punch well above its price against European prosumer peers. The trade-off is…
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Where they actually differ
On 7 of 11 measures these two tie. The 4 rows below are the entire argument.
M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control
Data S
Ready when you are
Data S leads, decisively
~12 min· ~5 min
Parts & repair
M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control leads, clearly
Forgiving to learn on
M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control leads, clearly
Push-button convenience
Data S leads, clearly
The price
M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control costs less, clearly
US$3,295–3,440· CA$5,265–5,270
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The counter’s vote
Looks barely figure in either machine’s record — the counter can sit this one out.
M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control: Compact industrial form trades countertop charisma for brass/stainless workbench aesthetic; not polarizing but unremarkable—functional beauty, rarely cited as a buying driver.
Data S: Sleek modern-traditional hybrid with saturated brew group as visual centerpiece, wooden lever accents; no award citations or polarization, appliance-neutral aesthetic reveal-preference.
Only the M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control: a hot-water tap.
Where they tie: milk & steam · shot ceiling · back-to-back drinks · reliability record · built to last — don’t let a spec sheet invent a difference.
So — which one?
Take the M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control if —
- You plan to fix, not replace
- You want the more forgiving of the two
- The difference stays in your pocket — or goes into beans
- Americanos and tea share the counter
Take the Data S if —
- Patience is not your virtue at 6 a.m.
- You want a button, not a ritual
Both columns reading true? Take the M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control and put the difference into fresh, roast-dated beans — they move the cup more than this choice will.
Known weak points
Data S
Firmware update bricking risk if interrupted; wiring-touching-copper reported once at delivery (manufacturing QA issue); plastic drip tray durability questioned by users.
For the row-by-row readers
The whole sheet, side by side
Matching rows fade back — the ink is where they differ.
M58 Sunto Espresso Machine with Flow Control
Data S
Type
Dual boiler
Dual boiler
Heat-up time
~12 min
~5 min
Steam power
4/5
4/5
Brew + steam at once
Yes
Yes
Guest recovery
4.5/5
4/5
Shot quality ceiling
4.5/5
5/5
PID temperature control
Yes
Yes
Milk system
Manual steam wand
Manual steam wand
Removable brew group
No
No
Flow control
Yes
Yes
Hot-water tap
Yes
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Cup clearance
0 cm
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Workflow demand
4/5
4/5
Maintenance
3/5
3/5
Noise
2/5
2/5
Build longevity
4.5/5
4/5
Dimensions
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29 × 49 × 37 cm
One owner each
“"5 years later and I see no reason to upgrade. The beauty of the machine equals the performance."”
“I am not even kidding you – the espresso and milk texture coming from this machine are the best I've tested.”
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