Turin DF64 Gen 2 vs Lelit Fred Tempo (PL044MMT)
Same class, different tax brackets.
About CA$104 apart — the split below is what the gap buys.
Turin
Strong consensusUS$359–420 · CA$465–500
The DF64 Gen 2 is a competently built, single-dose flat-burr grinder that delivers flat-burr clarity and dial-in consistency well above its price bracket. The trade-off is a purely manual, b…
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Lelit
Strong consensusCA$359–399 · US$259–329
Fred Tempo is what you buy when you want real stepless espresso adjustment under a real espresso machine without spending grinder money that rivals the machine itself. Accept that the 38mm b…
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Where they actually differ
On 3 of 6 measures these two tie. The 3 rows below are the entire argument.
DF64 Gen 2
Fred Tempo (PL044MMT)
Built to last
DF64 Gen 2 leads, clearly
The price
Fred Tempo (PL044MMT) costs less, clearly
CA$465–500· CA$359–399
Espresso duty
DF64 Gen 2 leads, clearly
Brew range
DF64 Gen 2 leads, clearly
weakerstronger
The DF64 Gen 2 leans clarity and sparkle; the Fred Tempo (PL044MMT) leans syrup and body. Pick the cup, not the machine.
The counter’s vote
Looks barely figure in either machine’s record — the counter can sit this one out.
DF64 Gen 2: Appliance-neutral industrial aesthetic; no award citations or kitchen-approval talk in the record — purchased for function and value, not visual appeal.
Fred Tempo (PL044MMT): Stainless steel body pairs naturally with Lelit Anna; plastic hopper criticized but accepted as trade-off for price.
Only the DF64 Gen 2: a single-dose workflow.
Where they tie: reliability record · value per dollar · quiet operation — don’t let a spec sheet invent a difference.
On the counter
The size difference, to scale
So — which one?
Take the DF64 Gen 2 if —
- Bright, separated cups are the goal
- You are buying once
- Espresso is the job, full stop
- You brew more ways than one
Take the Fred Tempo (PL044MMT) if —
- Syrupy, traditional cups are the goal
- The difference stays in your pocket — or goes into beans
The DF64 Gen 2 at ~27% more buys real things: built to last and espresso duty. If those aren't your mornings, the Fred Tempo (PL044MMT) does the job and keeps the difference in your pocket.
Known weak points
DF64 Gen 2
Flat burr wear over time (inherent to flat burrs, not specific failure); occasional motor/noise complaints in early units (gen 1 more prevalent); no widespread catastrophic failures documented, but sub-$500 flat burr longevity is inherently lower than conical or significantly more expensive…
For the row-by-row readers
The whole sheet, side by side
Matching rows fade back — the ink is where they differ.
DF64 Gen 2
Fred Tempo (PL044MMT)
Class
Single dose
Entry espresso-capable
Burrs
flat
38mm conical
Drive
Electric
Electric
Clarity lean
Clarity & sparkle
Syrup & body
Espresso suitability
4/5
3/5
Brew versatility
3.5/5
2.5/5
Retention
~0.2 g
—
Single dosing
Yes
No
Hopper
50 g
250 g
Workflow demand
4/5
2.5/5
Maintenance
2/5
2/5
Noise
3/5
3/5
Build longevity
3.5/5
2/5
Dimensions
13 × 22.5 × 30 cm
14 × 22 × 34 cm
Adjustment
—
Stepless
One owner each
“So far I'm liking my new DF64 Gen 2. It's my first grinder. I'm very excited about it!”
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